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World Series Game 5 Live Blog
Posted by Gus Papadopoulos at 10/27/2008 4:51:00 PM
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Looks live everyone's given up on this and is getting ready for Titans-Colts on MNF, so it's up to the true believers to get this started ... that's right, my son and I, who once took in a Monday night Rays-A's game at the Trop when he was eight, back in '02. He was learning to count, so we decided to count every person in the stands than night ... and we had to stop at 155. There are fewer people in the Rays' corner tonight, but I think they take this one. Kazmir might be the most talented LHP in the AL, and they've beaten tougher pitchers than Hamels in tougher parks than Philly this season. It's certainly true the Rays have been cowed a bit over the past two games, but they've been here before. Of course, the Phils do come in with a world of momentum.

Rays shaking up the lineup a bit tonight ... Crawford moves up to the second spot ahead of Upton, dropping the mega-slumping Pena and Crawford down a slot. Also, Baldelli in RF tonight.



Comments....

BTW, Thursday might have been the last game of Cliff Floyd's career; word's out that if his shoulder injury requires surgery, he'll retire. If he can rehab his way back to health by next spring without going under the knife, he'll do so.
Posted by sixsigmagus at 10/27/2008 5:04:00 PM
 
Hamels in the first: 1-2-3 on 7 pitches. (FYI, when the Rays faced Jon Lester in Game 3 of the LCS, Lester retired the Rays in the first 1-2-3 on 5 pitches.)
Posted by sixsigmagus at 10/27/2008 5:25:00 PM
 
HBP: Utley (by Kazmir, 1st) ... even though Utley's right foot was out of the batter's box. Umps have been awful, both ways. Meanwhile, Kazmir strikes out Howard on three nasty heaters after starting him with a change in the dirt.
Posted by sixsigmagus at 10/27/2008 5:34:00 PM
 
Kazmir loads the bases in the 1st (HBP, two walks), and, predictably and deservingly, he pays for it by giving up a two-run single to Victorino. 2-0, Phils, and Hamels-Madson-Lidge just need to get 24 outs.
Posted by sixsigmagus at 10/27/2008 5:41:00 PM
 
Thanks for starting it up for me tonight Gus. Got in late from picking up my kids.
Posted by Erickson at 10/27/2008 5:52:00 PM
 
I think that Kazmir has to hold the line here - against Hamels, anything more than a two-run lead is going to be too much.
Posted by Erickson at 10/27/2008 5:54:00 PM
 
A little bobble by Crawford on that single by Werth in the 2nd ... no harm done there, but this Rays club is not comfortable playing in cold weather (I think that had a lot to do with the Rays' misplays in the 9th of Game 3). If they plan on playing in Octobers for years to come, they'll have lots of night games in the northeast and midwest; better learn how to deal with it.
Posted by sixsigmagus at 10/27/2008 6:01:00 PM
 
Iwamura singles in the 3rd ... yeah, a no-hitter would have been embarrasing. Coming into tonight, Rays are 2-5 in their last 7 games, and have scored just 17 runs over their last 6 games.
Posted by sixsigmagus at 10/27/2008 6:07:00 PM
 
Kazmir's first 7 batters: two singles, two walks, HBP, two outs, 28 pitches. Kazmir's next 8 batters: one single, 7 outs, 29 pitches.
Posted by sixsigmagus at 10/27/2008 6:13:00 PM
 
And, my 14-year-old is going nuts over Christie Brinkley in the DirecTV ads.
Posted by sixsigmagus at 10/27/2008 6:14:00 PM
 
Finally a hit for Pena.
Posted by Erickson at 10/27/2008 6:16:00 PM
 
And now Longoria - happy for him. Also good to shut off the hand-wringing from McCarver and Buck.
Posted by Erickson at 10/27/2008 6:18:00 PM
 
Pena doubles! Longoria singles! Rocky, look ... Drago's bleeding! He's not a machine ... he's a man!
Posted by sixsigmagus at 10/27/2008 6:19:00 PM
 
That's twice now that Navarro's had pretty sketchy strike calls against him in consecutive games.
Posted by Erickson at 10/27/2008 6:20:00 PM
 
Question number five zillion and five from my wife that I can't answer ... "If the little Fox Trak thing shows the pitch is outside the box, why do they keep calling it a strike?"
Posted by sixsigmagus at 10/27/2008 6:22:00 PM
 
Presuming Kazmir gets through the 4th, if Bartlett gets on to open the 5th, does Maddon pinch-hit for Kazmir?
Posted by sixsigmagus at 10/27/2008 6:26:00 PM
 
Hamels fouls a pitch off his fingers while trying to bunt, and is now stuck on the bases while you _know_ Manuel is dying to have the trainer look at him ... best strategy in this case is to do what Pedro Martinez did in the 2004 series. Never take the bat off the shoulder, strike 1, strike 2, strike 3, no one gets hurt.
Posted by sixsigmagus at 10/27/2008 6:29:00 PM
 
I think not; Kazmir has settled down, and the bullpen has been worked fairly hard the last two days.
Posted by Erickson at 10/27/2008 6:29:00 PM
 
I was about to say, the bullpen has been as reliable as Isiah Thomas in a police report. Try to get as much out of Kaz as possible.
Posted by kevinccp at 10/27/2008 6:32:00 PM
 
Kaz's pitch count jumped big time this inning.
Posted by kevinccp at 10/27/2008 6:34:00 PM
 
Werth is really building up Kazmir's pitch count here.
Posted by Erickson at 10/27/2008 6:35:00 PM
 
Drat, you beat me to it.
Posted by Erickson at 10/27/2008 6:35:00 PM
 
Not sure about the Rays' bullpen being overworked ... it was mostly the B team (except for Wheeler) last night, with both Howell and Balfour getting the night off. And Price is certainly available. Still, I gotta believe Utley is Kazmir's last batter.
Posted by sixsigmagus at 10/27/2008 6:37:00 PM
 
Is it me or does it seem to be raining hard enough to suspend the game?
Posted by kevinccp at 10/27/2008 6:39:00 PM
 
Rain? What rain, sayeth Czar Selig?
Posted by sixsigmagus at 10/27/2008 6:45:00 PM
 
Oh, helluva play by Utley on Bartlett's grounder. And with two out, none on, Maddon decides not to burn a PH and sends Kazmir up to strike out.
Posted by sixsigmagus at 10/27/2008 6:46:00 PM
 
Welke is now 1-for-2 on tag plays the last two days.
Posted by Erickson at 10/27/2008 6:48:00 PM
 
Maddon let Garza throw 118 pitches in Game 7 of the ALCS, a no-tomorrow game .... Maddon will not worry about a pitch count on Kazmir, whose next start will come in March. He'll be in as long as he's effective. And, as I type that, he walks Howard.
Posted by sixsigmagus at 10/27/2008 6:53:00 PM
 
"That's very close ..." No, Tim. That's a bad call.
Posted by sixsigmagus at 10/27/2008 6:54:00 PM
 
Awful miss on the 2-2 pitch against Burrell. I feel like I'm getting my Bobby Cox on here, but I think that the ball-strike calls have been pretty bad the last couple of days. Again, I think it effects both teams, but Kazmir has been forced to throw at least three extra pitches when his pitch-count is already high.
Posted by Erickson at 10/27/2008 6:55:00 PM
 
Where the heck was that?
Posted by Erickson at 10/27/2008 6:55:00 PM
 
If I'm Maddon, I'm going nuts here.
Posted by Erickson at 10/27/2008 6:56:00 PM
 
You know, it's a bummer ... we're just talking baseball here, and some of the Really Cool baseball blogs are discussing Hall and Oates while a World Series game is going on. Funny, it's the same guys who rant and rave about Fox not respecting the game when they're broadcasting the Series.
Posted by sixsigmagus at 10/27/2008 6:58:00 PM
 
I would have gone to Price. You don't keep this game close it's not going to matter if he pitches the ninth.
Posted by kevinccp at 10/27/2008 7:04:00 PM
 
Balfour makes me eat my words.
Posted by kevinccp at 10/27/2008 7:09:00 PM
 
Now THAT'S the Grant Balfour I saw all year.
Posted by sixsigmagus at 10/27/2008 7:10:00 PM
 
Kevin, look for Price when Utley-Howard come up next inning.
Posted by sixsigmagus at 10/27/2008 7:11:00 PM
 
I was waiting for Kellogg to claim he'd called time in order to negate Pena's RBI single. I mean, how many calls can this crew blow?
Posted by sixsigmagus at 10/27/2008 7:29:00 PM
 
Is B.J. Upton's steal of second, in a driving rain, the most clutch stolen base in postseason history?
Posted by sixsigmagus at 10/27/2008 7:31:00 PM
 
And now the Series is delayed. It's so transparent, the delay was allowed *after* Tampa tied it.
Posted by spianow at 10/27/2008 7:31:00 PM
 
And don't give me Dave Roberts. Both were elimination situations, but Fenway was dry.
Posted by sixsigmagus at 10/27/2008 7:31:00 PM
 
Its an embarrassment that your championship has to be played in conditions like this at all. Just awful.
Posted by hextall at 10/27/2008 7:35:00 PM
 
Eh, I *like* Hall & Oates, and the comments there were sprinkled in among many others. I have no problem with it, especially during the first of the brief grounds work.
Posted by Erickson at 10/27/2008 7:36:00 PM
 
And it is beyond obvious that the weather was just as bad the last 2 innings, and they just didn't want to see TB rained out of the WS.
Posted by hextall at 10/27/2008 7:36:00 PM
 
Jeff Kellogg has not had a good night, there's no doubt about that.
Posted by Erickson at 10/27/2008 7:37:00 PM
 
And just that quickly during the delay, I've already got Married With Children on my Fox affiliate. Did Fox not have any delay contingency plans? Not enough to talk about?
Posted by Erickson at 10/27/2008 7:39:00 PM
 
Nearly anything organized by Major League Baseball, and broadcast by FOX, can turn embarrasing at a moment's notice. They gave the Phillies and Cole Hamels every chance to win this game, but the Rays have been inconvenient all season. How very fitting that Upton and Pena found a way to single-handedly tie this game, in basically a bottom-of-the-ninth situation due to the way MLB was handling the weather conditions.
Posted by sixsigmagus at 10/27/2008 7:41:00 PM
 
I think the extension was done for *Tampa's* benefit. Cutting out with Philly leading after 4 1/2 benefited the Phils, potentially.
Posted by spianow at 10/27/2008 7:45:00 PM
 
But Scott, it wasn't any worse in the bottom of the fifth than any time in the last two innings. It's in the top of the sixth when it got really bad.
Posted by sixsigmagus at 10/27/2008 7:47:00 PM
 
My point is this - if you want the Rays to win, you *don't* want this game put on hold while you're behind. MLB waited until the game was tied. I think the monsoon playing clearly was to the advantage of Tampa.

That all said, the rule should be simple - any playoff game has to be 8 1/2 or 9 innings, even if it's over multiple days. Period, end of story.
Posted by spianow at 10/27/2008 7:49:00 PM
 
BTW, for the older folks, is anyone reminded of Game 4 of the '77 NLCS? LA eliminates the Phils at the Vet, 4-1, John over Carlton, in a driving rain (worse than this, IIRC). http://www.retrosheet.org/boxesetc/1977/B10080PHI1977.htm
Posted by sixsigmagus at 10/27/2008 7:49:00 PM
 
Price has got to be the guy, on matter when the game resumes, no?
Posted by djbrown at 10/27/2008 7:49:00 PM
 
What a joke it would've been to see the Phillies win a World Series in 5 1/2 innings. Thanks goodness what happened, happened, and the umps called it when they did. I can't imagine many baserunners navigating the third base line as well as Upton did on his Series-extending run. That was a great piece of running (in addition to his stolen base).
Posted by jtopper at 10/27/2008 7:54:00 PM
 
I live in the Tampa area, and the local media is ALL OVER this umpiring crew. It has been pretty bad - maybe the umps are scared of pissing off those crazy Philly fans.
Posted by MPStopa at 10/27/2008 8:00:00 PM
 
When the game resumes, Phils will send up Ruiz-Hamels(pinch-hitter)-Rollins in the 6th ... I'd expect Maddon to have a righty on the mound, either Balfour (depending on the length of the delay) or perhaps Bradford. Then you'd see a lefty (either Price or Howell) to pitch to Utley and Howard.
Posted by sixsigmagus at 10/27/2008 8:06:00 PM
 
What are the odds that they play tonight again? What's the forecast looking like?
Posted by Erickson at 10/27/2008 8:10:00 PM
 
And ... this just in:

TAMPA BAY AT PHILADELPHIA

NOTE: THE GAME HAS BEEN SUSPENDED DUE TO RAIN AND WILL RESUME ON TUESDAY, OCTOBER 28 AT 8:00 PM.
Posted by Erickson at 10/27/2008 8:12:00 PM
 
And, the Rays apparently have nowhere to go; they checked out of their hotel because they were supposedly flying home either way, and reportedly their hotel has no rooms for them tonight. http://www.the700level.com/2008/10/developing-stor.html#comment-136647601 Maybe they could all stay at Joe Maddon's mom's place in Hazelton for the night.
Posted by sixsigmagus at 10/27/2008 8:26:00 PM
 
See y'all tomorrow. Same bat-time, same bat-channel.
Posted by sixsigmagus at 10/27/2008 8:29:00 PM
 
Looks like it's same bat-time, bat-channel on Wednesday.
Posted by Erickson at 10/28/2008 10:18:00 AM
 
Way to go Rocco!
Posted by jtopper at 10/29/2008 5:55:00 PM
 
How did Burrell only get a double on that crush to center field?
Posted by jtopper at 10/29/2008 6:01:00 PM
 
Best team lost. It happens.
Posted by sixsigmagus at 11/2/2008 4:25:00 PM
 

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