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Will a New Stadium Really Fix This?
Posted by Jeff Erickson at 9/13/2007 10:36:00 AM
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Wednesday's Marlins-Nationals game drew a whopping *400* fans. I know that their stadium situation is lousy, but really, 400 fans? How will a domed stadium fix that?


In short, probably not. The big question is whether this new stadium will allow the Florida ownership a significant bump in the payroll, as that's really the only chance they have. Outside of Miguel Cabrera, Hanley Ramirez, and Jeremy Hermida, the talent level is pretty thin. Toss in a relatively barren farm system and some injured starting pitchers, and it's hard to see this team competing any time soon.
Posted by vtadave at 9/13/2007 1:29:00 PM
This team has horrible starting pitching and that's why no one comes to the games. All of their starters ERAs are 4.74 (Mitre) OR HIGHER-Willis(5.27), Olsen (5.81), Kim (5.52). This team actually has the best young talent offensively in the league (I'll define that as 27 years and younger) Cabrera, Ramirez, Hermida, Uggla, Willingham, De Aza, Jacobs. However, there are no veterans on this team whatsoever, to provide leadership or push these guys, especially someone like Cabrera. But you aren't going to win games without starting pitching and theirs might be the worst in the league.
Posted by kevinccp at 9/13/2007 2:05:00 PM
Sure, their pitching has been bad this year, but 400 fans? It's not as if this were a makeup game - this was a scheduled game. I would think you would accidentally have to draw better. At least parking wasn't a problem.

I guess it's fitting that Jeffrey Loria is the owner of this team, after he had his hand in wrecking Montreal as a market (I understand he was hardly the only guilty party, but the guy to stick in the final dagger).
Posted by Erickson at 9/13/2007 4:42:00 PM
Another point, the NATIONALS
Posted by kevinccp at 9/13/2007 5:52:00 PM
LET ME CONTINUE....were in town, could there be a worse opposing team for the draw? At least the article was witty enough to point out that they may have counted Dmitry Young as 2 of the 400, LOL.....
Posted by kevinccp at 9/13/2007 5:53:00 PM
I'd go with Milwaukee's young talent (Fielder, Braun, Hart, Weeks, Hardy...Hall is just 27 as well though he's having an off year) but that's just me. Veteran leadership is overrated, just play well and it doesn't matter how old you are.
Posted by herbilk at 9/14/2007 6:34:00 AM
So it was the Nationals. Still, 400? Even Tampa Bay managed to draw 9-10K in each of their games against the awful Orioles (check out that pitching staff w/o Bedard and Guthrie) recently.
Posted by vtadave at 9/14/2007 3:20:00 PM
Washington has to be the worst draw, hands down, but no excuse for 400. I was just pointing out that if there was a bad team, it's the nationals. Oh and I'd take Hanley Ramirez and Dan Uggla as my middle infield anyday, their influence makes me like the Marlins better than the Brewers(better than any other middle infield tandem except the Phillies). And if your wondering about veteran leadership see Tony Clark and see the influence he's had on the DBacks young team. Every champion has veteran leadership, it's never overrated....
Posted by kevinccp at 9/14/2007 10:23:00 PM
400 fans???? No hurricane??? lol Hell, they got almost that in staff working at the park......heh :-)
Posted by Zenguerrilla at 9/16/2007 3:21:00 PM
Hanley Ramirez, Dan Uggla, Jeremy Hermida, Miguel Cabrera, Mike Jacobs much better than Fielder, Braun, Hart, Weeks, Hardy, and Hall.

Hall had a career year, Weeks will have wrist problems the rest of his life, Hardy will never hit as many HRs again in a season as he did in April and May of this year, Hart had a couple of good months but there's a reason he didn't start the year starting over Jenkins/Mench and that's pathetic. Fielder is a true stud. Braun, we'll see. He had a couple of good months, but now he's cooling off alot.

Hanley Ramirez plays the game on the level of Jose Reyes and has for two years now. Miguel Cabrera is the best 3B in the game with the possible exception of David Wright. Dan Uggla has shown last year was no fluke and his power at 2B is 2nd only to Chase Utley. Mike Jacobs and Jeremy Hermida have been putting up great numbers in the second half.

Come back here this time next year and if one of Braun, Weeks, Hardy, Hall, or Hart have come up to be one of the best players in the game AND Fielder is keeping it up, then I might admit the Brewers have a better young group.

Also don't forget defense. The Brewers have 6 OF/1Bs in those guys you mentioned. None of them play good defense at all. The Marlins guys are much more solid with the gloves.
Posted by Chicago Illinois at 9/17/2007 6:38:00 PM

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