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Tout Wars: First Nomination
Posted by Jeff Erickson at 3/19/2008 5:11:00 PM
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The AL Tout Wars draft is Friday night. As defending champ, I'll get the first nomination. Who should I nominate first? One of the players most responsible for my win, like J.J. Putz or Jon Papelbon? Someone silly that might have been overbid on last year? Or other?


One thing that baffles me is how in expert auctions at the highest level, people often feel compelled to nominate as if they were drafting. The top players come off the board immediately. Why is that? You can nominate whoever you'd like. Barry Bonds for $2? Now that would be interesting.

The other thing not enough people do is jump the bidding. If you think Papelbon's worth $27, and the bidding's at $5, why not say $25? If the bidding goes up gradually, you're still going to have to pay that much, but if you jump it, you might freeze people up. It's much easier for other owners to say $26 when they've just said $24 than when they weren't even sure what they wanted to spend.

I'd pick someone you think is worth about $13 and nominate him at $11. (At least I think he's worth $13).

Pudge Rodriguez for $11. He's going to have a good year, and it just might stick.

You've got the title and are playing with house money. Why not shake things up?

Posted by cliss at 3/19/2008 5:24:00 PM
the freeze bid is always an interesting strategy- how bout Lastings Milledge at 6
Posted by djm1144 at 3/19/2008 5:39:00 PM
try Liriano
Posted by vtadave at 3/19/2008 6:34:00 PM
How about just get your $1 catcher out of the way? Jarrod Saltamacchia - $1!

Or just throw out the first person on the list alphabetically and see if anyone notices what you did.

Conventional wisdom of course is to throw out someone expensive that you don't want to buy, which is never a bad strategy [even better: take a look at the last few opening day rosters of the biggest shark in your league - maybe you can identify a favorite of his and you can get him specifically to spend money early].

I love the jump bid strategy by the way, and it screws with people even more when the jump is really odd, like jumping from 7 to 23. Then again, be careful not to jump too high.

Posted by kennruby at 3/19/2008 6:39:00 PM
Unlike other drafts, the first player in experts drafts usually goes underpriced as experts sit on their hands. Throw out someone you want.
Posted by schoenke at 3/19/2008 6:58:00 PM
I like to bring up guys I don't want who possible can get more $ if they are brought up I would bring up someone like......mags, lirano, vlad becaue I am not looking at them for their price....
Posted by Zenguerrilla at 3/19/2008 10:25:00 PM
Early in auctions, I like nominating players who have a lot of hype but who I do not want - that way you get other owners to spend their money and you save your money for the players you actually want. The Liriano idea fits the bill here.
Posted by MPStopa at 3/20/2008 8:25:00 AM
I would throw out an hype rookie that you don't want and see where it goes. I rather have them overspend on a later round pick rather than throwing out the obvious. Maybe Votto, or Bruce?
Posted by epetruskie at 3/20/2008 1:24:00 PM
Do a priceline bid - a well-known guy at a price you're willing to pay, or a lesser guy who you'd take at a small price. *Make people think quickly!*
Posted by spianow at 3/20/2008 2:31:00 PM
I don't disagree with Liss on a lot, but I'm scared of a Pudge cliff year.
Posted by spianow at 3/20/2008 2:32:00 PM
"How about just get your $1 catcher out of the way? Jarrod Saltamacchia - $1!"

Salty's worth a lot more than that, especially in AL-only. He went for $9 in Al Tout.
Posted by spianow at 3/20/2008 2:33:00 PM
Yeah...I just like his name, and I was looking for someone ranked around #24 on our catchers cheat sheet. I forgot to look at just A.L. though (where he's currently #15, and certainly more than a buck). My fault.
Posted by kennruby at 3/20/2008 3:03:00 PM
Pudge - me too. I just opted not to keep him at $15 in the RotoWire 18-team mixed Staff League.

And a gentle reminder that this is an AL-only league - thanks for all the suggestions, folks!
Posted by Erickson at 3/20/2008 4:11:00 PM
I'd put a mid level closer out there and see if you can sneak him cheap. If someone wants to pay too much for him so much the better - if you get him for the price you want, sweet.

Maybe Soria

Posted by billgoofnow at 3/20/2008 6:41:00 PM you will let us know you do throw out, right?
Posted by kennruby at 3/21/2008 5:57:00 AM
I'm pretty sure the toutwars site (add dot com) will have some sort of semi-live coverage tonight for the AL Auction (and tomorrow, NL and mixed). Check it out.
Posted by spianow at 3/21/2008 9:24:00 AM
I tossed out Putz; he went for $26.
Posted by Erickson at 3/23/2008 9:45:00 PM

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