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Active Players Headed for the Hall
Posted by Chris Liss at 2/22/2006 6:00:00 PM
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All Time Greats Already (in order of certainty):

  1. Roger Clemens - 7 CY, 1 MVP, 4502 K, 341 W
  2. Barry Bonds - 7 MVP, 708 HR, 2311 BB, .442 OBP, 8 Gold Gloves, 73 HR season, 526 SB, 2078 Runs
  3. Greg Maddux - 4 CY, 318 wins, 3.01 ERA, 3052/907 K/BB, 15 Gold Gloves)
  4. Randy Johnson - 5 CY, 4372 K, 263 W
  5. Mike Piazza - 397 HR, .311 BA, catcher
  6. Pedro Martinez - 3 CY, 2861/662 K/BB, 2.72 ERA, 192 W, age 34
  7. Alex Rodriguez - 429 HR, .307 BA, age 30, 2 MVP, SS and 3B, 2 Gold Gloves

Other Definites

  1. Ken Griffey (10 Gold Gloves, 536 HR, MVP)
  2. Mariano Rivera (Arguably best closer and postseason reliever in MLB history, 4 Rings, 379 saves, 2.33 ERA)
  3. Derek Jeter (4 Rings, division titles every year, beloved player on the biggest stage, 2 Gold Gloves, 1936 hits, .314 BA, SS, age 31)
  4. Ivan Rodriguez (.304 average, 12 Gold Gloves, catcher).
  5. Manny Ramirez .314/.409/.599 career (435 HR, age 33)
  6. Sammy Sosa - 3 60-, 4 50-HR seasons, 588 HR
  7. Jeff Bagwell (449 HRs, .408 OBP, MVP, played half his career with Astrodome as home park).
  8. Craig Biggio (2795 hits, Astrodome as home park, 2 Gold Gloves, 1697 runs, 260 HRs, Second baseman).
  9. Frank Thomas (.427 OBP, 2 MVPs)

Good chance

  1. Tom Glavine (275 wins, 2 CY)
  2. John Smoltz (ace starter, 1 CY, ace closer)
  3. Andruw Jones (301 HR, age 28, 8 Gold Gloves).
  4. Trevor Hoffman (436 saves)
  5. Albert Pujols (201 HR, .332 BA, just turned 26)
  6. Vlad Guerrero (305 HR, .324 BA, just turned 30)
  7. Chipper Jones (331 HR, .303 BA, age 33, 3B)
  8. Gary Sheffield (449 HRs, .399 OBP, age 37)
  9. Todd Helton (.337 BA)
  10. Curt Schilling (will have 200 W, 3000 K, 2 rings, bloody sock)



Comments....

Griffey, Rivera and Jeter are definites, no question. Todd Helton might have a Coors backlash against him.
Posted by Jason Thornbury at 2/22/2006 6:03:00 PM
 
There's the Frank Thomas DH argument you have to contend against...
Posted by bscwik at 2/22/2006 8:40:00 PM
 
How about Ichiro Suzuki? High career batting average, the single-season hit record, and really the first big-name player to come over from Japan and maintain the same level of stardom over here.

Also, if you're going to consider Sammy Sosa, Larry Walker is really just as "active" (played last year, won't play going forward) and ought to fit towards the bottom of that "good chance" list.

Brian Giles' name ought to come up for discussion here.

A couple of names came to mind, but really it's too early to consider them: Prior, Beltran.

Oh, Frank Thomas? With those numbers, he could have been the worst defensive 1B in baseball 15 years running and still get in. Edgar Martinez, too.
Posted by sixsigmagus at 2/23/2006 11:11:00 AM
 
I left out all retired guys except Sosa. So Ripken, Gwynn, Rickey Henderson, etc. were left off. Thought about Walker, but since his great seasons were in Coors, and he was injured so much, I thought he'd have a harder time. Helton (if he stays healthy) should have better numbers.

Giles was a great player with his OBP, but do the Hall voters care? I don't think they will.

Ichiro is very interesting - he'll need to play at this level for four or five more years - if so - 2000 hits, high batting average, hit record, I think he gets in.




Posted by cliss at 2/23/2006 3:17:00 PM
 
Also consider Jim Thome, if he manages to come back from injury and have a few more good seasons. As of now he stands at .281/.408/.562 with 430 HR, 1193 RBI, 8 seasons of 33+ HR/106+ RBI/104+ BB.
Posted by jacobsilv at 2/24/2006 8:33:00 PM
 
Yeah, that's true - he compares pretty well to Sheffield except for batting average (which the HOF voters overvalue). Plus like Sheffield, he played a few seasons at 3B. (Sheffield also played SS). If Thome hits another 100 HRs, he should get in, too.
Posted by cliss at 2/24/2006 10:18:00 PM
 

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