When you hire a guy nicknamed "Psycho," expect him to say a few crazy, offensive things.
This particular transgression seemed less offensive and more inane. I'm not sure why it was a fireable offense and other comments were not, unless it's a "straw breaking the camel's back sort of situation."
I’m with you Jeff, I didn’t think those comments were even close to a fireable offense. Then again, he did make fun of a blind guy’s “binoculars” last week on air, not realizing they were a device to help him see better.-Dalton Posted by Dalton Del Don at 10/15/2006 8:58:00 PM
First off -- I don't *think* this is a matter of hiring a guy who you expect will say controversial things and then getting upset when he does. (ESPN hiring Rush Limbaugh would be a pretty good example of that, in my opinion.)
Lyons' implication was that Hispanic = thief. How could he NOT get fired after that?
As for the blind guy, that was an honest mistake, and Fox apologized. They certainly LOOKED like binoculars.
And as for Piniella, I always assumed he was Italian. But that's probably because I grew up with Phil Rizzuto calling games and telling me that any guy whose name ends in a vowel is a paisan. Posted by czegers at 10/16/2006 6:09:00 AM
I've always enjoyed Lyons and hope he continues to do the Dodgers games, but yeah he certainly should be on a short leash there too.
Posted by vtadave at 10/16/2006 8:50:00 AM
CZegers, read Ball Four. I'll loan you a copy if you need one. Posted by spianow at 10/16/2006 11:51:00 AM
Psycho got too harsh a penalty. The slap on the Miami players' wrists . . . just shameful. Posted by spianow at 10/16/2006 11:52:00 AM
I'm not sure he was implying that "hispanic = thief". He was reacting to something Pinella said a few minutes earlier. If Brennamen had made the original wallet comment and then Lyons said he was looking for his wallet, no one would have even cared. It would have just been funny and left at that. What I got was that Pinella made a comment about finding a wallet on the ground and Lyons joked about looking for his wallet. Why do Lyon's comments about Pinella speaking Spanish and looking for his wallet need to be tied to together? There must be other issues that the network had with Lyons. Posted by herbilk at 10/16/2006 12:02:00 PM
I'm guessing it was more of a "last straw" situation. I was watching the game when it happened and it was confusing even in real time. I knew he was referring to Pinella's "like finding a wallet on the ground" comment (some sort of anaology for the surprisingly good play of Marco Scutaro), but since about five minutes had passed, it was very confusing. That, combined with the fact that he said it directly after Pinella spoke Spanish, is what led people to think he was linking Hispanic people to Billfold Security.
The problem for Lyons is that he is a poor communicator. I never know what in the world he is trying to say. When you speak out of turn, without proper context, and with poor snytax, the chances of something being confused goes up exponentially. I think he was the victim of A) reputation, B) his poor communication skills, and C) bad luck (that a delayed running joke coincided with Spanish words).
Weird story though. At least now we have one less annoying Fox commentator to worry about. Posted by adamo112 at 10/16/2006 1:17:00 PM
Lyons has now made derogatory references to gays (the Richard Simmons comment a few years ago), Jews (Green), blind people and now Mexicans. "Last Straw" = right on. Posted by vtadave at 10/16/2006 1:38:00 PM
@spianow -- I have a copy... been meaning to read it forever. Thanks for the reminder.
@herbilk -- Maybe it lost something in the retelling... I wasn't watching the game, I was reacting based on what I read this morning. Posted by czegers at 10/16/2006 3:06:00 PM
You'll dig it, CZ. It might be my favorite *book* of all time, any subject. It's that funny, and that perceptive. Posted by spianow at 10/16/2006 7:35:00 PM
Here's the clip. I still plead ignorance over the comments? How was this offensive? I just don't see it. But I'm not hispanic .. maybe the subtext is lost on me. I'd love some insight.
Posted by schoenke at 10/17/2006 7:08:00 PM
what a joke. We are sooooo potlicitally correct that it has become pathetic. Posted by iknowbo34 at 10/19/2006 6:34:00 AM
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