RotoWire.com Fantasy Baseball Blog
Search All of RotoWire.com Blogs:
Blogs: All Sports
|Kasten dropped the ball big-time
Posted by Bret Cohen at 11/19/2006 9:37:00 PM
View more posts by this author
We all saw it coming a few weeks ago, but Alfonso Soriano is officially not going to be a Washington National next season after signing an eight-year, $136 million contract with the Cubs. Which begs the question: why didn't Stan Kasten and the new Nationals ownership trade him when they had a billion teams lining up for him at the deadline last season? The Nats were clearly out of the race and have one of the worst farm systems in the majors. Soriano could have landed two or three prospects, including at least one blue-chipper, that would have breathed life into the rebuilding franchise. Or, in the alternative, they could have worked out a deal to re-sign Soriano. Instead, they let him go for a couple of measly draft picks (awarded under the CBA). In the end, they needed to put their machismo aside and back off trade demands in order to get something of value back for Soriano. The argument that the fan base would have revolted is hogwash -- certainly, the new ownership group would have some leeway to trade the star player in a rebuilding effort. If Kasten knew he wasn't going to re-sign Soriano, given his disdain for no-trade clauses, this is a gigantic blunder.
|making things worse for the Nationals is that the Cubs finished in the bottom 15 of the league last year, meaning the Nationals won't even get a first round pick for Soriano. They'll get a sandwich pick between the first and second round and then the Cubs' second round pick.
The Brewers were in a similar situation with Carlos Lee and were generally lambasted for their mid-season trade. Critics hated it and the average Milwaukee fan hated it. Now that the season is over the Nationals are getting lambasted because they didn't trade Soriano. It appears that the only way not to get lambasted is to either A) resign the player to a bad long term contract or B) pull off a huge one sided deal at the deadline.
The Brewers traded Lee and Nelson Cruz for Kevin Mench, Laynce Nix and Francisco Cordero. If that truly was the best deal that anyone offered Brewers' GM Doug Melvin, what do you suppose the Nationals could have gotten for Soriano? Would you be happier with Mench, Nix and Cordero than the draft picks? That's really the question you need to ask yourself.
Of course, most Nationals fans will instead believe that there was some team out there willing to hand over all the top prospects in their system and the Nationals turned them down.
Posted by herbilk at 11/20/2006 6:22:00 AM
|It was really Jim Bowden who dropped the ball. Kasten was foolish enough to keep Bowden on, therefore he deserves some of the blame as well.
Posted by holdenkushner at 11/20/2006 8:04:00 AM
|What's wrong with Mench, Nix, and Cordero? The Brewers added a prospect to the deal in Cruz, so it's not like they valued Mench, Nix, and Cordero as chump change. And, given his performance after the deal, it looks like Cordero benefitted from the change of scenery, though his walk rate was a bit alarming.
Of course, there was no one willing to hand over all their top prospects. That's basically what the Bowden/Kasten duo was demanding. If they had lessened their demands and settled on at least one solid prospect, or even a quality bullpen arm like Cordero, it would have served them better than the picks they'll now receive.
I think that Kasten is too shrewd to merely hold onto Soriano for the PR reason of not pissing off the fan-base for the last two months of the season. Any fan who held onto the pipe dream that the Nats would have re-signed Soriano was crazy. And even if they could have re-signed him, they still could have traded him and then ponied up the bucks at the end of the season. Stupid.
Posted by bscwik at 11/20/2006 9:52:00 AM
|"Stupid" as in not that the authors of previous comments were stupid, but rather referring to the management decision.
Posted by bscwik at 11/20/2006 9:54:00 AM
|The Washington Times reports that Bowden and Kasten didn't think any of the offers they received for Soriano would be better than the two picks they'd receive in compensation. Unfortunately for them, the Cubs signed Soriano, so as mentioned before they got the Cubs' second-rounder instead of a first rounder. Still, I think, you have to go for a proven player over a draft pick. Then again, we won't ever know what teams were offering.
Posted by bscwik at 11/20/2006 10:31:00 AM
|I think the Nats could have had Scott Baker and other prospects from the Twins. I think that was the best offer on the table before they decided not to trade Soriano. I think that's better than a top pick just because you are getting more quantity and a little more certainty in talent. They blew it big time. I mean, trading players before they leave is a cornerstone of how the Twins and As are able to stay winners with smaller payrolls.
Posted by schoenke at 11/20/2006 11:38:00 AM
|Peter is right here. The Twins offered Baker and 2 other prospects from what I know. I'm not overly impressed with Baker, so to rent Soriano for a year or 2 would have been great as a Twins fan.
To the original point, completely agree the Nats really screwed up here. I think the Angels offered Ervin Santana in a deal also, although I'm not 100% on that.
Posted by schwang2u at 11/20/2006 2:35:00 PM
|Top 100 Prospects: Special to Rotowire.com
From John Sickels
PROSPECT LIST UPDATED OCTOBER 25, 2006
With the exception of some first-round picks, there are very few 2006 players on this list. The next version of the list this winter may (or may not) have some additional 2006 draftees on it.
No player who has exceeded 150 major league at-bats or 50 innings pitched is on this list.
1) Alex Gordon, 3B, Kansas City Royals
2) Delmon Young, OF, Tampa Bay Devil Rays
3) Phil Hughes, RHP, New York Yankees
4) Matt Garza, RHP, Minnesota Twins
5) Brandon Wood, SS, Los Angeles Angels
6) Mike Pelfrey, RHP, New York Mets
7) Jay Bruce, OF, Cincinnati Reds
8) Homer Bailey, RHP, Cincinnati Reds
9) Troy Tulowitzki, SS, Colorado Rockies
10) Justin Upton, OF, Arizona Diamondbacks
11) Jose Tabata, OF, New York Yankees
12) Andy LaRoche, 3B, Los Angeles Dodgers
13) Andrew McCutchen, OF, Pittsburgh Pirates
14) Adam Miller, RHP, Cleveland Indians
15) Luke Hochevar, RHP, Kansas City Royals
16) Yovanni Gallardo, RHP, Milwaukee Brewers
17) Adam Lind, OF, Toronto Blue Jays
18) Cameron Maybin, OF, Detroit Tigers
19) Billy Butler, OF, Kansas City Royals
20) Elvis Andrus, SS, Atlanta Braves
21) Fernando Martinez, OF, New York Mets
22) Evan Longoria, 3B, Tampa Bay Devil Rays
23) Andrew Miller, LHP, Detroit Tigers
24) Clayton Kershaw, LHP, Los Angeles Dodgers
25) Adam Jones, OF, Seattle Mariners
26) James Loney, 1B, Los Angeles Dodgers
27) Scott Elbert, LHP, Los Angeles Dodgers
28) Tim Lincecum, RHP, San Francisco Giants
29) Carlos Gonzalez, OF, Arizona Diamondbacks
30) Kevin Slowey, RHP, Minnesota Twins
31) Eric Hurley, RHP, Texas Rangers
32) Hunter Pence, OF, Houston Astros
33) John Danks, LHP, Texas Rangers
34) Troy Patton, LHP, Houston Astros
35) Reid Brignac, SS, Tampa Bay Devil Rays
36) Josh Fields, 3B, Chicago White Sox
37) Elijah Dukes, OF, Tampa Bay Devil Rays
38) Travis Buck, OF, Oakland Athletics
39) Jason Hirsh, RHP, Houston Astros
40) Craig Hansen, RHP, Boston Red Sox
41) Ian Stewart, 3B, Colorado Rockies
42) Chris Iannetta, C, Colorado Rockies
43) Nick Adenhart, RHP, Los Angeles Angels
44) Jacoby Ellsbury, OF, Boston Red Sox
45) Matt Albers, RHP, Houston Astros
46) Chuck Lofgren, LHP, Cleveland Indians
47) Franklin Morales, LHP, Colorado Rockies
48) Chris Young, OF, Arizona Diamondbacks
49) Humberto Sanchez, RHP, Detroit Tigers
50) Brandon Erbe, RHP, Baltimore Orioles
51) Colby Rasmus, OF, St. Louis Cardinals
52) Ryan Braun, 3B, Milwaukee Brewers
53) George Kottaras, C, San Diego Padres
54) Clay Buchholz, RHP, Boston Red Sox
Posted by Itchalot at 11/24/2006 7:05:00 AM
|Can someone at Rotowire please get their act together?
Posted by Itchalot at 11/24/2006 7:08:00 AM
|Here is the rest of the list that Rotowire refuses to post from its own contributor:
55) Donald Veal, LHP, Chicago Cubs
56) Joey Votto, 1B, Cincinnati Reds
57) Miguel Montero, C, Arizona Diamondbacks
58) Ubaldo Jimenez, RHP, Colorado Rockies
59) Wade Davis, RHP, Tampa Bay Devil Rays
60) Lance Broadway, RHP, Chicago White Sox
61) Garrett Olson, LHP, Baltimore Orioles
62) Chris Volstad, RHP, Florida Marlins
63) Kory Casto, 3B-OF, Washington Nationals
64) Joel Guzman, OF, Tampa Bay Devil Rays
65) Michael Bowden, RHP, Boston Red Sox
66) Radhames Liz, RHP, Baltimore Orioles
67) Gio Gonzalez, LHP, Philadelphia Phillies
68) Aaron Thompson, LHP, Florida Marlins
69) Sean West, LHP, Florida Marlins
70) Eric Campbell, 3B, Atlanta Braves
71) Justin Huber, 1B-OF, Kansas City Royals
72) Erick Aybar, SS, Los Angeles Angels
73) Jeff Clement, C, Seattle Mariners
74) Travis Wood, LHP, Cincinnati Reds
75) Pat Neshek, RHP, Minnesota Twins
76) Scott Lewis, LHP, Cleveland Indians
77) Dustin Pedroia, 2B, Boston Red Sox
78) Brandon Morrow, RHP, Seattle Mariners
79) Brad Lincoln, RHP, Pittsburgh Pirates
80) Jacob McGee, LHP, Tampa Bay Devil Rays
81) Carlos Carrasco, RHP, Philadelphia Phillies
82) Will Inman, RHP, Milwaukee Brewers
83) Jeremy Hellickson, RHP, Tampa Bay Devil Rays
84) Travis Snider, OF, Toronto Blue Jays
85) Bill Rowell, 3B, Baltimore Orioles
86) Trevor Crowe, OF, Cleveland Indians
87) Dexter Fowler, OF, Colorado Rockies
88) Gabe Hernandez, RHP, Florida Marlins
89) Matt Harrison, LHP, Atlanta Braves
90) Blake DeWitt, 2B, Los Angeles Dodgers
91) Hank Conger, C, Los Angeles Angels
92) Nolan Reimold, OF, Baltimore Orioles
93) Chris Parmalee, OF, Minnesota Twins
94) Scott Thorman, 1B, Atlanta Braves
95) Sean Gallagher, RHP, Chicago Cubs
96) Francisco Cruceta, RHP, Seattle Mariners
97) Tyler Clippard, RHP, New York Yankees
98) Joe Koshansky, 1B, Colorado Rockies
99) Stephen Marek, RHP, Los Angeles Angels
100) Juan Gutierrez, RHP, Houston Astros
Posted by Itchalot at 11/24/2006 8:29:00 AM
You must be logged in to post a comment. Click here to log in or register with RotoWire.com.