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Still Not Buying Vidro
Posted by Jason Thornbury at 12/19/2006 1:45:00 PM
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The Mariners finally proffered an explanation of the Vidro trade, but, not surprisingly, it doesn't shed any vindicating light on the trade and probably makes the team look worse (if that's possible).

GM Bavasi said Vidro "provides a valuable contact hitter who will ... offset some of the teamís swing-and-miss tendencies." And that, as a contact guy Vidro "could keep innings going."

Fair enough. Vidro struck out just once every 10.65 PA last season, 23rd best in the majors.

But were the Mariners particularly poor in the K department last year? Well, three players (Johjima, 11.78 PA/K; Betancourt, 10.81; Suzuki, 10.59) ranked in the top 25 and a fourth (Lopez, 8.19) ranked in the top 50. As a team, the Mariners ranked 11th in PA/K (with Sexson's 4.31 PA/K (8th worst in MLB) a drag on their ranking). It would appear that four contact guys would be suitable.

But let's say that's not the case and the Mariners really, really need another contact guy. Why grab one so costly as Vidro? Vidro cost the Mariners $12 million (and a vesting option for 2009) and two prospects that could contribute this year.

How about gambling on, say, Todd Walker or Jay Payton? Both have even better PA/K rates (13.26, 11.31, respectively) than Vidro and both would have been significantly cheaper without giving up any prospects. Walker made $2.5M last season before re-signing with the Padres. Payton signed a two-year, $9.5M deal with the Orioles.

I'm not advocating either of those necessariy, but simply making the point that there are certainly less expensive options that provide similar skills as Vidro. Maybe the Mariners targeted some less-expensive Vidros and none wanted to come to Seattle. Who knows? But if that's the case, don't you just fold your hand instead of going all-in on mediocrity?

What's more, Bavasi says "Vidro has the skills to be a good No. 2 hitter," though he could see him batting "anywhere from second to sixth." You're not going to bat a guy with a sub-.400 SLG three, four or five. But if he bats second, which seems likely, you'd have four contact hitters in a row -- 8. Lopez, 9. Betancourt, 1. Suzuki, 2. Vidro. How does that help the apparent point of signing Vidro in the first place? How does batting those guys in order, rather than sprinkling them throughout the order, "offset the teamís swing-and-miss tendencies" that can "keep innings going"?

Hey, maybe I'm as clueless on this as I am on astrophysics. But, please, someone tell me how this trade isn't unlike paying first-class full fare for a middle coach seat next to two fat guys when an aisle coach seat in the exit row is on sale.


I'm not sure how germane the K/AP stat is to anything except identifying a contact type hitter and making your argument. Certainly Payton was one of the least disciplined hitters in the majors last season, swinging at everything. In fact, the more I think about the trade and the Mariners view of Vidro, the more it sounds like Mike Hargrove. I don't know with certainty if that's a good thing, although I do have a negative opinion which I'll keep to myself.
Posted by arwen at 12/19/2006 2:56:00 PM
The point is, there were cheaper options out there(without having to give up prospects)with just as much potential as Vidro brings. Whoever it sounds like, it's a horrible move.
Posted by schwang2u at 12/19/2006 5:47:00 PM
On top of all the other problems with Vidro, he's also a wee bit injury prone, right? That makes him at best a spare part at this point of his career.

RE: "paying first-class full fare for a middle coach seat next to two fat guys when an aisle coach seat in the exit row is on sale."

This has nothing to do with Vidro, but I once ended up in a row with two obese women. It was just a coincidence that we all ended up in the same row as we didn't know each other. They had to open up the armrests to fit in the seats, and the two of them together took up the three seats. I had to be moved to another row (unfortunately, not first class).

You may now continue with your discussion.
Posted by kennruby at 12/20/2006 8:46:00 AM
They could have signed Mark Loretta without giving up anyone in a trade.
Posted by czegers at 12/20/2006 9:53:00 AM

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